Nicholas Wade

So that is a perfect correlation.

So that, it seems to me, is the sort of place to start looking for answers.

And that is something that's very hard to change.

I mean, women are not taking this decision lightly, I assume, but for all the reasons in any society, this is what they decide.

And I don't know how, no one knows how you make them change their minds on this.

Yeah, if people will start to recognize it as a true crisis, which I think is the problem.

It's a slow-moving crisis, and we're not going to go extinct tomorrow.

It's just that things will get steadily worse.

We'll have an ever-dwindling workforce supporting an ever...

larger group of old people, and we won't be able to have the soldiers to defend our borders.

It's a very slippery slope and very insidious to recover from.

Right, that's very interesting.

Well, this, of course, is the purpose that evolution has created for us, to breed and have children.

I mean, we don't like to admit it.

We look in our culture for all other kinds of purposes, but this is the root purpose.

That's exactly right.

That's a very good thing, I would think, for politicians to focus on.

They should try and make each stage of life easier for people who are having children.

As you mentioned, reducing the cost of education would be a very good thing to do.

and housing and so forth.