Nick Bryant

And I had a pretty good job in academia that I just kind of walked away from.

Well, I mean, it was kind of mutual, I think.

That was very secure, but I'd reached a point where I just wasn't compatible with it.

The plan A there was move to New York and if I didn't succeed, I didn't have a plan B. When the Franklin scandal was published, I just thought I'm going to make plan A work.

because I'm not a Plan B kind of guy, but Plan A did not work, and I found myself living in a hovel in Brooklyn.

Now, I don't have anything against Brooklyn, but I was there for about a year, and that was kind of a hard time for me, because I had to kind of restart my career.

And one of my friends, who was kind of a big shot at a network,

He was the only one that apologized to me.

I said, Nick, I'm really sorry.

You know, I could have been a better friend to you when you went through all those difficulties.

Yeah.

So one of my friends in the media, one, was, that's it, said, you know, I'm sorry that I banished you from my life.

Man, man.

In the Franklin scandal, there were two primary pimps.

There was Lawrence E. King, and he kept his mall shut, did 10 years.

Then he had a no-show job waiting for him at a BMW dealership in Alexandria, Virginia.

Then there was Craig Spence, who was really the blackmail side of things.

The thing about Epstein and Spence, there was so much media on Epstein that he could not be a blackmail artist.

If everybody knows that his homes are equipped with audio-visual surveillance and he's got young girls, I mean, people are not gonna wander into that honey trap.

And the same thing happened with Spence.