Nick Bryant

And then...

There was a Genovese crime guy named Pascual Falcone.

And he got busted smuggling 22 pounds of heroin into the United States.

And the Justice Department started digging into him.

And they came across all these shell companies that he headed.

And Clive Davis was funneling money from ABC Records to these shell companies.

So I've just told you about...

Two decades worth of criminality by Clive Davis.

And that guy has not spent one night in jail.

That's what's amazing about him.

So in 1993, I think he takes P. Diddy by the hand and they get on the yellow brick road.

And P. Diddy has been engaged in all kind of criminal behavior, but nothing has come out.

And I believe for Clive Davis, this is just my surmise, for a guy to do, commit as many felonies as he's committed and not spend a day in jail, I believe he's working for the government on some level as an informant.

I mean, who knows?

But...

I mean, a guy in that position, I'm sure, has quite a panoramic view of certain types of corruption and criminality.

Where?

In what realm?

In the music realm.

Yeah, I mean, there's all kinds of laws on the books about what people could, like the payola scandal.