Nick Clegg

And I was in the White House with Biden and other tech leaders.

I was the only leader from Meta there when he signed the executive order.

They're basically now bit by bit reassembling a version of the Biden executive order.

Because why?

Because the more powerful and versatile these technologies become...

It's not just a question of whether they're dangerous or not.

They want to know, which is the driving animating force behind all of the behavior in the White House, in Silicon Valley, is how can they keep a persistent edge over their Chinese competitors?

Because I tell you what, one thing we...

should be under no illusions about they're losing that edge to the chinese hand over fist the chinese are now leading on open sourcing ai technology around the world so ai models around you go to latin america africa asia we don't see that here but everyone's using open source off the shelf free chinese models you look at talent creation the chinese universities in towns you've never heard of the size of a medium-sized european country are churning out ai data scientists on a scale no one else is most of the people doing a lot of the deep research in silicon valley are

are actually of Chinese origin.

They've got a much more coherent approach to energy, which is one of the most important ingredients in all this.

So that's what's driving this.

But you're absolutely right.

It's just another classic example where all that sort of hyperbole that I witnessed when I just left Silicon Valley, I, in a rather sort of grumpy, jaded sort of old man, sort of in the corner way, said, yeah, yeah, we'll see.

And it's all those chickens are coming home to roost.

I remain young at heart, but I know you do as well.