Nick Goodall

Is that where the specialty of talking to an advisor comes in?

That's a great point, right?

Like those advisors.

become that central point they can connect you to a lawyer and to anyone else that you need throughout that process they've got access to the tools and hopefully they're using cotalities property guru as well to get all the detail about that property information as well so they really do become that central connector don't they which um yeah you can't beat and like you say the sooner you go and talk to someone uh the the more information you've got and the better you can plan for you know what that plan or that road to home ownership looks like so you couldn't couldn't agree more about that um

Before, I've got a few leadership questions I want to get to shortly, and we're going to try and make them a bit more quickfire, as quickfire as we can, I suppose, for these conversations, because I tend to ramble a bit too much.

But anyway, I just wanted to give one more plug as well for the report, particularly because this time around, we've also looked a bit more at sustainability and that angle of ensuring that people are buying sustainable properties at the same time.

There's also a bit of a generational split here.

Not so much a gender thing, which I suppose is probably a good news story.

But again, if we focus on those Gen Z people, that generation, that we see that 33% of Gen Z have actually made significant energy upgrades to their property once they do get their house.

compared to 25% of the older generation in that baby boomer space.

Do you think that's also a situation where it's more about awareness and understanding of the options out there, or a bit of a combination of those things?

What's your take, maybe your experience through understanding, you know, we're going through a pretty fast changing time through climate change and sustainable options and housing.

Where do you sit with all that?

Heck yeah.

I mean, there's no better examples more recently than all the storms that are coming through and the extra flooding that's, you know, the more frequent one in 100 year floods, which seem to happen much more often than one in 100 years.

So, yeah, it's certainly becoming more prevalent.

And it's good to see, you know, people recognising that, like I say, more people that are comfortable, I suppose, those younger generations get to understand that.

But at the same time, I think your point's right about that cost of living, that actually the good thing now is that even, I don't know, five or 10 years ago, you would be putting solar on or you'd be making these sustainability improvements, but often because it felt like the right thing to do, the cost payback wasn't really there.

But even in the short five or 10 year period, I went to the New Zealand Green Building Council 20th anniversary the other week, and just how fast it's moved now to not just be the best thing for the environment, but you genuinely can save money

by doing these more sustainable options too.