Nick Groff
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
Nick Groff’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Murder In America · 201: NEVADA - The "Ghost Adventures" Murders (feat. Nick Groff) · 16 May 2025
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Um, to fast forward in time, I remember getting a phone call from Debbie and she talked to me and just said, you know, it's the point where it's just so toxic and I want this in life. And I personally just, um, was I, I was, uh, off of ghost ventures. I wasn't a part of Ghost Ventures anymore. And I was working on making Paranormal Lockdown.
And she called me and she had this conversation with me. And I said, Debbie, I'll be honest with you. If you really want to change your life and you want to feel good about it, because I was going through a lot of shit back then, too. And I wanted to feel good. I want to be positive. And this is my direction. I'm getting away from negativity. Right.
So I could I could relate to what she was saying without getting personal with her relationship, her life. And I just said, look, it's simple. you want to feel good in life and you want to be positive and move forward with what you want to do, then detach negative things around you and go for it. Like go after what you personally want to do and I'll leave it at that.
And that conversation we had and then she I didn't hear from her a bit. And I didn't hear from anyone, but I was so hyper-focused on making Parent Lockdown that, you know, that's kind of what it became for a little bit. The last event I did with them was my first Nick Roth tour event at the Mansfield Reformatory in Ohio. I literally convinced them.
They weren't working together anymore at that point. They didn't want to do stuff together, but I convinced them to come to the event and be a part of it. I had like everyone there for guests. And they agreed. They said, we both like you. We'll put our differences. And they were cool. They came out. They were cool. And they were cordial. But they were still bickering.
We went out to dinner together. You know, I just, I still saw it. I said, wow, this is, I don't know, this is getting out of control, kind of toxic. And that was kind of the last event I did with them.
And then I get a phone call, and it's Debbie again. And she tells me that she was coming back to her house with her friend, and all of a sudden, Mark and I think their daughter were there, something like that.
He confronted her in the driveway, and she said, this was her exact words to me on the phone, she said that he grabbed her by the neck and threw her to the ground and was strangling her, and she said his eyes went black like he was possessed by the devil, is what she told me.
And she said, I did it like I was, like, screaming for my life, and her friend was being attacked, and then she said something, and he, like, let go or something, she said to me. And then, you know, she, like, scrabbled away, and then the police came and arrested Mark for domestic abuse, which you probably heard of after the fact on the news and whatever what happened.
And that was her, that's what she told me. And I said, I said, Debbie, like, I didn't know what to think because I knew Debbie for a long time. Like, she used to talk kind of like that, like, like, not like, I don't know, not like losing your mind, but just like, oh, my God, this and that and this and that, you know, and it's just kind of like that.
I just said, look, I really can't get involved in any of this stuff right now. Like, what are you telling me? I sympathize for you. I'm sorry. Like, and she was just worried and she was just talking to me. And then I just, I kind of just talked a little bit more and I listened to her and I let her go. And that was it. I moved on. I'm like, holy shit, I can't get involved with this right now.
Whatever's happening in your life, I don't want to be a part of anything like negative. I just got away from negative. I'm trying to do good things and bigger things. And like, that's all I need right now to be a part of something like this.
And then she calls me and she a while later and she says, Nick, I just want to call you and tell you that Mark's probably going to be getting out of jail. I'm like, OK, I really didn't even know he was in jail or anything that was going on after that. I forgot about it. I just thought it was a thing and like life is going on. And she starts telling me that, um. Mark's getting out of jail.
And I said, okay. And she goes, if he calls you, please do not tell him where I am. And I said, Debbie, I have no clue where you are right now. So just don't tell me where you are. If he calls me, I don't know. I really don't know. So I don't know. And I keep telling you, I can't get involved. I don't know what's going on or what's happening. I know you're calling like...
I guess as a friend at this point, and I'm like, and she goes, no, I understand. I just want you to know, thank you so much. Like, you know, you've been great and working with you and all this stuff. It's just been crazy. But she's like, I did it. I finally got my life together. I moved on. I moved away. I'm like going in a positive direction. I'm in a positive place.
So like, if he calls you, just don't like say, mention anything. Like I called you or anything. I go, no, I won't. I have no clue. So yeah. That's awesome. I'm happy for you that you're doing positive and you're doing good." And that's what she was. She really meant it. She sounded different in her tone. She just said, I've moved on and I'm moving on right now.
And I said, I'm really happy for you. That's awesome. I'm doing the same. I got this great thing that I'm working on. She's like, that's so cool. She started talking to me about some other stuff.
about the network and what happened to me and all the other stuff that you probably heard about what I posted online about, you know, being like over my show, Ghost Ventures and moving on and doing Paramo Lockdown and what happened to me and how I was kind of done wrong. She was like supporting me on the phone, like saying, I've always believed in you. You always were good. And I know the truth.
And that's what she told me. I knew the truth with what everything happened to you and I support you and I'll still support you. Yeah. And that's the last I talked to Debbie.
I get a phone call and it's Mark. And Mark calls me. I forget exactly when it was. I think the next day or so, the next two days or so, Mark calls me and says, hey, Nick, how's it going? I said, good. What's up, Mark? How's everything? And he was just matter of fact about everything, just really chill. And he starts talking to me, oh, you know, this and that.
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