Nick Miroff

He's just managing the politics and the optics differently because...

the broader public has soured on mass deportations since Minneapolis.

The optics of it are bad.

Exactly.

But it isn't even a gentler face.

It's just like, what does targeted enforcement mean?

It means they're going to use all their resources, all the money that they have to develop target lists, to go and find the people that they want to arrest, who they can arrest, and take them into custody.

They're just going to do it, you know, in a less visible way and in the way that ICE has traditionally operated.

And that's why the Kristi Noem, Corey Lewandowski, Greg Bovino approach of the first term was also really disorienting for most, you know, career ICE officers because it wasn't the way they're used to operating.

They didn't like it.

They don't want to be performing for television cameras and social media.

You know, that's what the masks were about in a lot of ways.

And so if you tell ICE officers, you're just gonna do the job that you have been doing for most of your career, but with less of the spotlight on you, they'll be like, great.

That's what I signed up for.

That's what I signed up for.

And I think they will ultimately, they will get bigger numbers.

You will see a lot more deportations

Well, you know, it's funny, like the White House, the Republicans, ICE leaders seem to have already given ground on some of the other items on the Democrats' wish list.

You saw Mark Wayne Mullen during the confirmation hearing say that he would...

return to the policy requiring ICE to have a judicial warrant to go into someone's private home?