Nick Mott

Exactly. Like so much of politics, like so many environmental issues in particular, this has gone the way of everything. It's Republicans versus Democrats. For decades, actually, both sides have been trying to propose changes to the law, but neither side has been able to get anything done. So the Endangered Species Act is just kind of stuck in this place somewhere in the middle.

Exactly. Like so much of politics, like so many environmental issues in particular, this has gone the way of everything. It's Republicans versus Democrats. For decades, actually, both sides have been trying to propose changes to the law, but neither side has been able to get anything done. So the Endangered Species Act is just kind of stuck in this place somewhere in the middle.

Exactly. Like so much of politics, like so many environmental issues in particular, this has gone the way of everything. It's Republicans versus Democrats. For decades, actually, both sides have been trying to propose changes to the law, but neither side has been able to get anything done. So the Endangered Species Act is just kind of stuck in this place somewhere in the middle.

And this comes back to grizzly bears in a lot of ways too. Like the government has tried to delist grizzly bears two times in the past, both times conservation groups sued and that got overturned in court. They're expected to make a third decision coming up likely in January. And every time we see it sort of – take on this partisan spin.

And this comes back to grizzly bears in a lot of ways too. Like the government has tried to delist grizzly bears two times in the past, both times conservation groups sued and that got overturned in court. They're expected to make a third decision coming up likely in January. And every time we see it sort of – take on this partisan spin.

And this comes back to grizzly bears in a lot of ways too. Like the government has tried to delist grizzly bears two times in the past, both times conservation groups sued and that got overturned in court. They're expected to make a third decision coming up likely in January. And every time we see it sort of – take on this partisan spin.

And to me, we really need to move beyond the partisanship around these issues and actually start talking about the substance behind them and figure out how we can coexist, how we can both exist on the landscape, like people and bears.

And to me, we really need to move beyond the partisanship around these issues and actually start talking about the substance behind them and figure out how we can coexist, how we can both exist on the landscape, like people and bears.

And to me, we really need to move beyond the partisanship around these issues and actually start talking about the substance behind them and figure out how we can coexist, how we can both exist on the landscape, like people and bears.

Oh, I'm doing my best. Thank you so much for having me, Aisha.

Oh, I'm doing my best. Thank you so much for having me, Aisha.

Oh, I'm doing my best. Thank you so much for having me, Aisha.