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Nick Pyenson

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The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I took her out to California, and then one night, Lily had to be moved to the wildlife waste station, and a caretaker did not lock her up one night when it was freezing, and Lily froze to death.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I was devastated.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

She's like my daughter and my lifetime work.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I mean, my life centered around her.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I just think of that baby in Lily's arms and sad that Bob and I were not able to be a part of her life or grow up as Lily did or be with her parents.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I had heard through the primate grapevine that the Columbus Zoo now had a PR chimpanzee, a baby chimp that the director of the zoo was taking around on his PR visits here and there around the city.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

The director was being bitten by Sheba.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Then, of course, I got the telephone call.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Could she come and join our project?

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And she did.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

They are a fascinating species in their own right, and anything we learned about them could only, I hoped, would eventually benefit them in captivity.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

The idea being that if we showed how similar they were and how much they empathized, how much they could communicate, how intelligent they were, that we would begin to slowly change the consciousness of the country in terms of what we did with them in terms of biomedical research.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Sheba was about two years old when she came to the project.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Compared to other chimps that I've worked with, Sheba was above average intelligence, I think.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And this is going to be very subjective.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And I think every human mother probably goes through this as well.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

There's a point where your child...

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

sort of becomes an individual.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And I got that sense from the chimps as well.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

They had their own ideas about things.