Nick Shirley

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3,693 appearances 30 recordings 20 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 11 May

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The Shawn Ryan Show · #297 Nick Shirley - Inside California’s $222 Billion Medi-Cal Crisis · 20 Apr 2026 podcast

Overdoubled.

The proposed budget's at $222 billion.

Holy shit, dude.

And the thing with the fraud is they want to make it so big and so complex that it's hard to actually crack down on.

And so when you have that much money going out to these locations, going out to these hospices, going out to these home health cares, it makes it very hard to crack down on.

Because how do you, like the web's so deep at that point.

Like there's so many hands that are involved.

How are they doing the fraud?

So hospice and home health care, like the most valuable thing to somebody over the age of 65 is their Medicare beneficiary number.

And that's even more valuable to a fraudster than a credit card.

So they get the medical beneficiary numbers of these people and then they start enrolling them into hospice.

And once someone's enrolled to hospice, a lot of people in California don't even know they're enrolled in the hospice until they go to the doctor and they need a surgery or they need an appointment.

And they say, well, we can't help you.

You're enrolled in the hospice.

How many people have died because of this?

I don't have the exact numbers on that, but I imagine a lot of people get to the doctors and they're like, wait, I had no idea it was on hospice.

CBS even reported on it.

You're on hospice.

Or an aneurysm.

Holy shit.

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