Nick Viall

We develop a different relationship with him.

And in those cases, it kind of, I don't know, works.

Where maybe he was egged on Vanderpump Rules.

And just sort of like living in that environment for so many years.

And then he gets this, I don't know if you want to call it like a redemption on, on traders.

And we see him like, yeah, we see him in like in a different way.

There's also like this, this thing that happens in therapy.

Like if I'm seeing a couple and,

and they're deep in their pattern, and they don't even realize the abuse cycle that they're caught in, then me, as the therapist, I'm sort of their, what we call their frontal lobe, the part of their brain that sees things practically and logically, and I'm like, hey, this isn't okay.

That was shitty to say.

You're being really mean.

There's Darvo going on here.

Let me tell you what's up.

Like, I'm going to let you know the reality of the situation because you're so caught up in this relationship.

I think the same thing sort of happens with people on reality shows where they get so caught up in these situations that they don't have full access to their frontal lobe.

So they rely on the producers.

And the producers, they're acting as like the frontal lobe, the logical part of them doing like, oh, this is okay or this isn't okay.

But the producers, they also are under a lot of pressure to create a good show.

They're under a lot of pressure to like create the drama so that the TV show is compelling, right?

So who's actually like got the real frontal lobe that knows what's going on that can give everybody a reality check?