Nick Viall

I'm not sure anybody there is doing that.

So everyone's kind of being exploited at a certain level.

Well, that's the thing, though, right?

Like, we have to take the sort of, like, Mormon culture of it all into context here.

I think there's a lot of arrested development that's going on.

Like, they're acting like high schoolers because they didn't get to play out their high school years when they're actually children, possibly.

Sure.

And so now they're doing it in front of all of us.

And this should be going on in private, like without cameras filming every single thing.

So we're also kind of the whatever the crew or the producers or the network is like taking advantage of their arrested development.

But they're actual adults that should have had like fully formed brains by now.

I mean, it's giving desperation of like wanting to be the hero or wanting to be seen in a specific type of way.

And also like having no, I don't know, morals about it, where all of this feels very like play things.

Like it's giving a little bit of narcissism, like a little bit of sociopathy, a little bit of like antisocial personality disorder, where it was just like, everybody is sort of like a little puppet.

You'll do whatever you're going to do in order to create the narrative that serves you most.

And yeah, it's also kind of like chicken or egg thing with some of these folks.

Like, do you have to be this way to kind of like be a reality star?

Or does this like make you this way in order to like survive the situation that you're in?

But it's...

It's something that I feel like you just, it feels very suspicious and you can't trust it.