Nicola Brady

Like it all adds up.

And I think if you have something that gives you a similar level of freedom, then you could potentially convert a car lover.

Will you make a saving on it, though?

I've tried to do this maths in the past.

And you know what?

Sometimes I think you do.

I think the local links are really well priced.

And for a lot of them, if you're paying with your LeapCard, it's 30% cheaper anyway.

So I guess if you're on your own comparing it to driving out...

I would say possibly, but also I don't know.

That's what I was thinking.

If there's one of you, yes.

If there's a few of you, but for families, it's always cheaper for the kids.

For sure.

When you're seeing those temperatures climb into the 40s, the thought of doing anything in the middle of the day is just horrendous.

I remember being at the Coliseum years and years ago when it was nudging 40 and we went in the middle of the day and you just don't care.

You're like, I just want to be anywhere but here.

Whereas if you're going out in the evening, like you say, it's mimicking the sort of local patterns and you're seeing the bars and restaurants come to life, people out for their evening stroll, like kids playing in the street up until sort of 10 or 11, where it's just cool enough to go outside.

It's a lovely way to see a city, I think.

I think there were some elements like the bars and restaurants where the locals would have gone.