Nicola Tallent

Anyway.

Hello, Nicola.

When is a narcissist not a narcissist?

Equals.

Yes.

When is one manipulated when dealing with a narcissist equals always.

In my humble opinion, you were manipulated by Hutch when he came home in 2024 for his run to the Dáil.

He wouldn't use the two Pauls, too much history.

So he targeted you, but you allowed, you think you'd got him to speak to you.

I think that just really is supposed to mean he targeted you, but you allowed him to think that he had... That you had convinced him to speak to you.

All the smiles at the airport, the podcast to deliver his new image, not the ruthless gangster, but the person who the state had tried to convict.

And now you gave him the platform to give him...

To give the new hutch a man for the people, a false persona to hide his narcissistic profile.

He smiled, he spoke freely, and all along you've been coerced into his corner.

It goes on to, you know, discuss that kind of thing.

Now, interestingly, because I'm sure there's lots of people nodding and going, exactly, give it to her.

This is, again, quite a familiar...

narrative that we hear from a lot of people.

He allowed Dowdall to go state's evidence against him.

Was it a plan hatched by him and was Dowdall part of the regency?