Nicola

He put out statements.

He put out statements sometimes to the sports media.

At some point, he did a podcast with James English, the podcaster that never appeared.

So he had this whole campaign and it just muddied the waters just enough enough

up until really the sanctions were laid by the US media.

But before that, he had boxing promoters like Bob Arum speak on his behalf.

He had Frank Warren, I think, as well.

Yeah, so...

Look, there's no doubt it almost... He almost made it, if you want.

He almost managed to move from one world to the other successfully.

But the intervention of the Americans, I think, was really key to stopping that.

And, you know, he's never...

since that day they stood up in Dublin Castle and sanctioned him and named him personally he's never looked like he was going to become get away from that reputation again I think The other thing to go back to is what I was saying there was all these rumours kind of over the last few years the other one of course was that Daniel Kinahan had become a Muslim

As I said, the rules aren't always clear from Dubai but there's a few issues, right?

The crime has to be equivalent in both jurisdictions and

But the other one that's very important is this kind of human rights issue.

So if Dubai can't extradite you under their law to somewhere where you're going to suffer religious or political persecution, that's part of their law.

Now, I think partly that's put in there if people are Muslim and they're being sent to a non-Muslim country, they will be able to make an argument that they're not going to be treated fairly if they're sent back to Ireland.

Now, of course, the Irish state are going to say there's tens of thousands of people of Muslim faith living here and they're absolutely protected under the law.

There's many Muslims in prison and they don't suffer persecution.