Nicola

Look, there's no doubt it almost... He almost made it, if you want.

He almost managed to move from one world to the other successfully.

But the intervention of the Americans, I think, was really key to stopping that.

And, you know, he's never...

since that day they stood up in Dublin Castle and sanctioned him and named him personally he's never looked like he was going to become get away from that reputation again I think The other thing to go back to is what I was saying there was all these rumours kind of over the last few years the other one of course was that Daniel Kinahan had become a Muslim

As I said, the rules aren't always clear from Dubai but there's a few issues, right?

The crime has to be equivalent in both jurisdictions and

But the other one that's very important is this kind of human rights issue.

So if Dubai can't extradite you under their law to somewhere where you're going to suffer religious or political persecution, that's part of their law.

Now, I think partly that's put in there if people are Muslim and they're being sent to a non-Muslim country, they will be able to make an argument that they're not going to be treated fairly if they're sent back to Ireland.

Now, of course, the Irish state are going to say there's tens of thousands of people of Muslim faith living here and they're absolutely protected under the law.

There's many Muslims in prison and they don't suffer persecution.

And they have facilities they need to practice their religion.

They're going to say that but of course if that was the case he's going to be able to make that.

Obviously then he's had children and he's had legitimate businesses or seemingly legitimate businesses and he has property over there so he could maybe say if he's... Was all of that not frozen though in the aftermath of the sanctions?

Well it was frozen but

that would be another argument he could make that if he's guilty of a crime he should be prosecuted over there and not sent back to Ireland.

You know, I don't know.

No, but there is a thing with extradition that if there's a sort of case, if you're suspected of something you should be tried where you are.

Now look, all of that, like you have to remember Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, it's not a normal country and