Nicole Matusko
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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There was a back door that was unlocked to the back of the house. So we believe that that's likely where he left the home after he murdered Amar.
Our biggest concern was really making the evidence into a timeline that made sense, that couldn't have a lot of holes poked into it.
Abudur Alyasari was instrumental and she was working along with her boyfriend to brutally murder her husband. So we needed to make sure that the evidence that we had would be able to sustain that burden of proof to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and to convince the jury that this did happen.
We kept in close contact and we talked through what the relationship was like with her so that we could know going into this, was it a healthy marriage? Was there abuse? That type of information. She basically had told us that that didn't take place, that Amar was a loving husband, was a loving father.
They had arguments like any married couple, but there was no evidence that it was an abusive relationship.
His sister wasn't surprised that she had been arrested. She had a sneaking suspicion that somehow Badur was involved.
That was our theory of the case is that she was fueling him, that she knew Jacob Fisher, being from the military, would have the ability to commit the crime, but she had to ignite that fire and give him a reason to do it. She manipulated him and told him what she wanted him to hear.
I think what stuck out to me was even after Jacob Fisher and Bedora were charged with murdering Amar, they kept in contact while they were in custody in our jail. And that never made sense to me with her trying to say that she wasn't involved in this.
Circumstantially, we had to prove that Jacob Fisher was the individual inside that home that day.
So for his trial, a lot of the defense was based on the identification of Jacob Fisher as the person inside the house wielding the axe and murdering Amar Alyassari. We had neighbors that saw a figure walking down the road but didn't see a face, for example.
I was shocked that Jacob Fisher was willing to take the stand in his own defense. I was more shocked that he had more or less admitted that it was him inside the home, but had just indicated to the jury that he was there to confront Amar because he was in love with Badur and... he and Badur were going to be together. So he needed to basically allow a peaceful divorce.
And then Ammar had assaulted him. And Jacob Fisher, because of his training in the military, had just responded. And he happened to have a camp axe in his hand. So that's how Ammar got the 24 chop wounds.
In that moment, we were also in a bit of a disbelief that it was happening the way that it was happening. But he stuck to his ground, and he actually testified that Badur was not involved or didn't know that the murder was going to happen.
During the cross, we were just trying to poke holes in as many parts of his statement as possible.
Ultimately, he was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder as well as murder. So from that conviction, it's pretty apparent that the jury didn't believe that testimony.
This is a very circumstantial case that we had to prove based on a lot of search warrants and putting a lot of pieces together. So the concern would be we believed that she was responsible, but we wouldn't be able to meet that burden of proof.
Badour and Ammar had dash cameras in their cars as well. So we actually had video of Badour's day that day and what she was doing. So we were able to piece together and actually show the jury that when she remotely disabled that alarm, she was still driving with her children in the car.
So I think that made it easier to understand that it wasn't just she was turning off an alarm, but that something else was happening.
for example, the surveillance footage from Kroger. You can't see who is driving. We had testimony that she spent a lot of time with Jacob Fisher that day and they carried in bags from Kroger, but we couldn't prove who was the driver. So it was circumstantial evidence that we were asking the jury to rely on in their own common sense as to what transpired.
So their defense for Badur was really they didn't meet their burden of proof.
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