Nicole Perlroth

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1,851 appearances 14 recordings 2 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 14 Jul

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And the reason they don't work is in the old school deep fake,

What the technology would do is simply identify where the fake was and track it over time and either map a new face on or drive another face.

And when you obscured the face, the face tracking would get confused.

But the new versions are what's called occlusion aware.

They are aware when something is in front of the face and they simply factor it out and they can track the face even when something is occluding.

If you really occlude the face, really block like 80% of the face, it will start to break down.

But the hand waving in front of the face just doesn't work anymore.

Okay.

We were able to get inside one of these Discord channels that this one North Korean cell of 22 people were using to manage their operations.

And we would see them say, hey, I can't show up for this interview.

Can someone else swap in?

Or I can't show up for this Zoom meeting I need to do.

Can someone swap in?

So I imagine this is where deepfake technology would be incredibly useful.

Is that how you're seeing it, not just for interviews, but sort of used in these jobs?

Yeah.

Yeah, this is really important because there's getting the job, right?

And in some ways, that's probably easier.

When I call somebody up to do an interview, I don't know what they look like.

I don't know what they sound like.

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