Nicolle Wallace

How much of a setback is it to have Trump and RFK there?

Very bad.

And I interviewed, I went to this one Nobel laureate's lab in Philadelphia, University of Pennsylvania, and many of the doctors and researchers are moving to Canada, to France, who are offering great sums of money.

We were ahead.

And one of the things, he was sort of this sort of dry doctor, and he's like...

We're going to be begging China in the next pandemic for vaccines, which we shouldn't be doing, right?

We were ahead on everything.

The cutting of, science takes time and money and it requires government to be part of it.

This idea of the demonization of government is so damaging given how far ahead we were in a lot of these things.

And giving all the innovation to private industry, which I think is important, should not happen because then those people are in charge of everything versus all the rest of us.

I mean, you could replace that with the word diplomacy, right?

Like government does diplomacy and like everything Elon Musk did with Doge to USAID.

Doge was a failure.

Let's be clear.

Look, he's good at rockets.

Great.

Good luck.

You know, he didn't find the fraud that they said.

They didn't do anything.

All they did was wreck things without any idea of what they're going to build.