Nicolle Wallace

And so to watch Marco Rubio dancing on the edge of a knife with George Stephanopoulos and saying, why are you guys all fixated on who's running Venezuela?

Because eight years ago, you would have been.

And, you know, Maduro's bad.

Yes, Maduro's bad, but so is Putin.

And we're not even going to help our ally defeat him.

So I guess I still struggle with how brazenly they're spooning bullshit about the things that they're doing, which are really consequential and put us on this path, as you said, to unwind NATO.

I've actually watched the Rubio-Trump debate performance a bunch of times because of all the obsession about hand size and ego, and I'm more fascinated than I should be with how J.D.

Vance describes Trump as America's Hitler, and now, like, something that no one has ever...

before that, said on my show, and I certainly have a lot of Trump critics there.

I mean, J.D.

Vance has had the harshest indictment of Donald Trump, among the harshest that I've ever heard.

He's now his subservient number two.

Marco Rubio articulated a foreign policy more consistent with Ronald Reagan, John McCain,

Mitt Romney, and now he is carrying out, and again, he may have evolved, you know, I've evolved, but that doesn't seem like it, to your point.

They now seem like invasion of the body snatchers, carrying out something that maybe in deep recesses of their brain, they know is not just wrong, but dangerous.

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

I mean, that's another one that, I mean, more people come to you for their news and information and facts than any human being who publishes on Substack.

And some of it is the timidity with which the rest of us cover what's happening in our own industry.

And I wonder if you can just say a little bit more about what's happening in the news industry.