Nigel Brennan

And then trying to get an understanding of who our captors were as well, like trying to start to get to know them.

Even the young guys who used to bring our food.

One of the young guys, Jamal, who was like six foot three, dark as the night, had the whitest teeth on the planet, massive big smile, spoke English.

And, you know, I started up, I guess, a relationship with him, not a friendship, but a relationship.

So I started talking to him about who he was and what he wanted to do with his life and those sorts of things and just trying to show general interest.

And for me, it was about...

Trying to make myself a valuable asset too, like trying to get people to like me so it maybe would be harder for them to kill me.

Maybe that's a stupid idea, but that was like my survival mechanism sort of kicking in.

Even in the first week or so, both Amanda and I asked for English versions of the Quran, which the group were quite excited about us wanting to read the Quran in English.

And then after a few days, they said, well, if you become Muslim, we wouldn't be able to kill you.

But if you don't become Muslim, then the outcome will probably be we'll get a ransom and then we'll execute you.

And it's just like, I don't really have much choice.

Amanda and I sort of talked about that.

It's just like, well, we don't really, it doesn't feel like we have an option.

So, again, here's a survival technique that we convert and,

We become Muslim and perhaps that allows us some basic privileges.

Like, I don't understand anything about Christian religion, let alone Islamic religion.

And I think I'd read maybe five pages in and was like, I want to convert.

And they were super excited about that.

And we went through the whole, you know, saying the profession of faith and doing what you've got to do to become Muslim.