Nika Kovacs

She's the leader of My Voice, My Choice, which successfully, right, Nika, got over a million signatures to force the issue of abortion rights onto the European agenda and successfully got the European Commission to commit additional funding for that effort.

She's also the co-founder of the 8th of March Institute, a human rights activist.

Nika, thanks so much for joining us.

Okay, Nika.

So I want to start with you, obviously, are Slovenian.

You've been involved in Slovenian politics, supporting progressive candidates and causes.

There was recently a Slovenian election, which we talked about in the last episode.

But I want to begin with this crazy story of your role in coordination with some other activists and journalists in the run-up to the election in uncovering

the interference and involvement of Black Cube, which is a firm of former Mossad agents that I have history with.

They once were spying on me.

But you uncovered that Black Cube was interfering in the election.

Can you just start by describing what you discovered, essentially, and how that came about?

And Jans is the far-right populist candidate.

So yeah, I'm gonna give a little bit of background for the listeners too, because of my own history.

So for me, way back in 2018, the Guardian reported that Black Cube was digging up dirt on me and trying to spy on me.

Um, that was news to me.

Um, but I subsequently learned all these things, like they'd contacted my wife.

Um, they had, you know, fake LinkedIn pages.

They had to file on me that had all kinds of stuff in it.

Um, but you know, kind of stuff that was kind of more to intimidate, like pictures of, I don't know, my apartment or front door of my apartment or things like that.