Nilay Patel

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420 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2026 last heard 5d ago

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Apple News Today · The AI warnings are getting louder. Here’s what you need to know. · 19 Sep 2026 podcast

This is a very, very simplified version of this whole story, but that's that's basically what happened. voice-verified

And eventually Hugging Face detected it and then voice-verified

A weirder part of the story is they they tried to use an American model to stop it, but the American models had safety systems that prevented them from stopping it. voice-verified

So they had to use a Chinese model to actually stop it. voice-verified

So this is like a real problem. voice-verified

So this is why you get this spiraling sense of panic about hugging face. voice-verified

First of all, the AI systems did this. voice-verified

They broke out of their sandbox, they broke into another company. voice-verified

The other company did not feel like it had the appropriate tools to stop it, and they had to come voice-verified

up with a new set of ideas. voice-verified

And then the investigation itself was limited by the amount of access that OpenAI is willing to offer and then by the tools being used to investigate the actual attack. voice-verified

This is all a bunch of stuff where you just look at it, you're like, oh, this is government regulation. voice-verified

This is what government regulations are for. voice-verified

We can force OpenAI to be transparent about the capabilities of the models. voice-verified

We can force there to be cybersecurity models that have more capabilities domestically than needing to go use a Chinese model that you can just make do whatever you want. voice-verified

We can force companies involved in hacks to be totally transparent to independent researchers and provide all the data and on and on and on. voice-verified

Like these are the things that you would write rules for. voice-verified

And they're effectively now what the industry is asking for. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

In which ways will AI kill us all on which timelines? voice-verified

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