Nilay Patel

We've seen the studies from the frontier labs already saying this is going to start happening.

100%.

100%.

That's another place where the consumer basically has to trust you, right?

Yep.

That's just how it's going to be.

How do you think about the cost of mitigating against the increased attack service of your scale, the increased capability of the attackers, and all of the products that you want to provide to people?

When you say first dollar we're going to spend, do you think about that in terms of return on the investment specifically?

Or just this is the enabling cost of all of the other investments we're going to make?

And we got to stay on it.

Experience a public company.

Obviously, there's some amount of pressure to deliver increasing profits, enabling costs, especially big enabling costs can come under pressure.

Is that just you who has to defend it?

Is it the ethos of the company?

How does that work?

It's the ethos of the company, for sure.

So if you show up and say, I need to double the cost of security, that's just going to be fine.

I hear from our listeners who have similar situations at you that the incremental cost of security sometimes is hard to defend.

Let me wrap up by just trying to tie all this together.

I've talked a lot about the individual consumer.