Noah Hawley

And I was like, well, I know how to write, but I need to know how to produce a thing.

But then while I was on staff, I published another book.

I sold a movie script each season.

I

I didn't write a pilot the first year, but the second year I went into ABC.

and developed a show with them that they really liked, but they didn't make, right?

Because it didn't really have a genre, right?

That was the broadcast days where they're like lawyer, Dr. Cop, right?

I think so, yeah.

It was a sort of white trash dynasty about a guy who had a used car empire and he had four families and everybody worked for him.

And, you know, it was a really fun sort of- I want to watch that show.

I see you as the lead on that, Willie.

Yeah, for sure.

And they really liked it in the character work.

And so then strategically, I thought, okay, well, I'm going to go back in the next year.

What can I sell them that they would actually make?

And I thought, well, let's sell them a cop show, not a procedural, but like a Hill Street or a Barney Miller or something like that.

And so that's the show I pitched them.

And then, you know, we got it through the process with Jeremy Renner and

and, you know, Goldberg and Harold Perrineau.