Noah Shachtman

They were sort of an Americana band.

There was a fiddle involved.

There was an upright bass involved.

And, you know, because of Dolan's many connections in the music and entertainment businesses, they would, like, go on the road and open up for the Doobie Brothers and Don Henley.

Yeah, this is a sprawling media empire that James Dolan came into.

And, you know, for a lot of years in New York, was kind of like a punchline.

No, he's winning.

He's winning.

He may have started out with this image of a fedora-wearing Nepo baby failson, but he has really come into his own.

Again, right, for the third or fourth year in a row.

Speaking of entertainment products... Which very few people thought he could actually pull off, has become a huge, instantly iconic part of the American entertainment landscape.

He now sits as the CEO or chairman or both of, I think, four different companies in...

And I think their collective valuation is now in the $14, $15 billion range.

You know, he has become a genuine tech mogul in a lot of ways.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Also, does AI wear a scarf like that?

Yeah, there'd be a suit against him.

And so everybody associated would all of a sudden get banned from the garden.