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Noam Brown

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

I think No Limit Texas Hold'em, the version that we were playing has 10 to the 161 different decision points, which is more than the number of atoms in the universe squared.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

That's heads up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

I mean, it depends on the number of chips that you have, the stacks and everything, but the version that we were playing was 10 to the 161.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

Oh, no, no, no.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

I'm saying we played the full game.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

You can bet whatever amount you want.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

The bot maybe was constrained in what it considered for bet sizes, but the person on the other side could bet whatever they wanted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

And so the way neural nets help out here is, you know, you don't have to run into the same exact situation because that's never going to happen again.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

The odds of you running into the same exact situation are pretty slim.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

But if you run into a similar situation, then you can generalize from other states that you've been in that kind of look like that one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

And you can say like, well, these other situations, I had high regret for this action.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

And so maybe I should play that action here as well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

That is a controversial question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

I'm sure David Silver is going to get really angry at me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

I'm going to say poker, actually, and I think for a couple reasons.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

So first of all, you have the imperfect information aspect.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

And so we can go into that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

But once you introduce imperfect information, things get much more complicated.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#344 โ€“ Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

Yeah, so Texas Hold'em, you get two cards face down that only you see.