Nolan Church

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3,514 appearances 31 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 18 Dec

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“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies · Why L&D Fails (And How to Fix It) with Fidelma Butler · 2 Dec 2025 podcast

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“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies · The Post-Acquisition Power Reckoning · 25 Nov 2025 podcast

I'd actually love to understand the evolution too.

Yeah.

So you come in as a founder, you've been calling all the shots.

Now all of a sudden you're inside of a business in which you're not calling all the shots anymore.

So talk to us about the evolution there.

You talk to a lot of HR leaders, and I think HR is going through one of the biggest changes it's gone through in the last 10 to 15 years.

HR leaders have to do more with less.

There's a ton of scrutiny on their headcount in addition to their budgets.

And I think there's an overwhelming wisdom from tech CEOs at least.

That

You know, th they haven't been focused on the right things, that they haven't been focused on business outcomes, that they've been pushing uh things into the business that they don't want.

What are you seeing and hearing from HR leaders as they navigate this moment?

submit another one, which is you have to be Yeah, you have to get to the lowest level of detail.

And this is where I think the biggest gap is between business leaders and HR leaders today.

Business leaders are operating in the business and they're actually doing the work of growing revenue.

Or in an operations business, my favorite example is at Doordash.

Every month, every DoorDash employee has to go dash.

And holy shit, do you learn a lot about the business when you get in that car, you go pick up that food from the restaurant, it's 15 minutes that you waited there, you get to the house, mom has screaming kids behind her because they're starving and you're late.

And you have a ton more empathy for how the business operates.

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