Norm Eisen

I think the totality of it does penetrate.

We've seen poll after poll lately where Donald Trump is at historic approval ratings down as low as 37 percent.

When I worked in the White House, which I view as holy ground,

because of the lives that have been sacrificed for the American idea that that building represents.

When I would walk in that east wing that is so cruelly torn down, I would get chills at the history of what had happened in that building.

I do think the American people get the totality and the

thing that donald trump is doing he's tearing down that building but he's tearing down the human infrastructure he's attacking the government employees in this shutdown that is why we at the democracy defender

fund have gone to court with our partners, with the federal employee labor unions and other wonderful partners.

We've gotten three TROs.

We got the latest one today to say you can't tear down the human infrastructure.

You can't fire people.

There's no legal basis to do it in a shutdown.

He wants to inflict that same same pain.

That's not what America is about.

So I do think you're seeing a public repudiation of Trump.

And of course, we're going to have a referendum on him.

New Jersey, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Supreme Court retention races.

And I think you're going to see powerful repudiation.

Today, I'm signing an executive order.

creating the Illinois Accountability Commission, a body dedicated to truth, transparency, and justice.