Norm Eisen

That's why his approval rating is in the 30s.

Well, we can't do the ex post facto laws, the laws that look backwards.

So I was going to say, Jennifer, that Mark and I have become such good friends because he's kind of the man of the people.

Some say we're odd bedfellows, the odd couple, and I offer the legal side.

perspective, I say enforce the laws that we have now.

They're being broken.

They're being broken every day.

It's so outrageous.

And while we're here, right now they're being broken.

Look at these extrajudicial killings of people, the boat strikes.

that are going on in the Caribbean.

And what we do at Democracy Defenders Fund is every time one of this happens, we are putting down a marker right now.

We're filing complaints, criminal referrals, civil referrals, bar complaints.

We're holding people accountable in real time.

And to seize on one thing Mark said, we don't have to wait.

for the day that you're foreseeing when there'll be again a unified government, a president who can act briskly.

I was one of the first to say, why are we not holding Trump accountable for January 6th?

I mean, why did it take years?

People thought I went I remember I went on CNN on the morning show and I talked about it and they looked at me like I was out of my mind.

So we cannot wait.