Norma Kamali

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117 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard Mar 2025

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And I said, Yeah, I do. And I thought, oh, I can't resist this. I cannot resist this, but I have to tell the story. So I said, oh my God, I do remember. And I told the story and she was turning every color purple. And I said, and I'm fine with that. And I probably will sign this license, but I'm sorry. I had to give back a little, I had to give back a little love, but I was so naive.
I had no idea. I didn't even realize that that was, I just thought, oh, that must be the way it is. I just didn't know.
Let's just say I spent many nights sleeping. crying myself to sleep, thinking I'm going to have to close tomorrow because I'm not going to be able to pay the rent, or I'm going to have to find something else to do, or it's over. And now the problems are so much bigger and more of a drama than they were then, and they still keep me up and they still keep me on my toes.
But when you're crying yourself to sleep, one of the things I learned and my partner thinks is one of my best assets is no matter how shitty it is when I go to sleep, I don't know why this is, but I wake up every morning in a good mood, like, today I'm gonna fix it. That was shitty yesterday, I'm fixing it today. And I think you can actually do that.
And it's worked for me enough that I still really feel This is another day. This is another chance to fix it or do something better. So being afraid is real, but also trying to mitigate the seriousness of what's frightening you is more important. And so survival skills are key, really key.
I think the way you grow is to do something you never did before. So to the dismay of everybody that works here, I'm constantly... doing something nobody's done before. And I think after a few of those, they kind of get used to it and go along for the ride and really learn more about themselves too. That doing new things really expands your brain. There's real data to show that.
And I think it also... gives you a sense of your own power and your own abilities. And I think that that's really the key. If you stay curious, for me, it's reinvention or innovation, but everybody has a different desire and goal. But doing something new as often as possible is, I think, the secret to really seeing what your potential is.
There are so many things I want to do and I'm trying to do. at the same time, which is tricky. I'm enamored with AI, truly enamored. I think it's the future. It's everything in the future. The more I learn about it, the more I realize I want to try to tell everybody I know, just try to get into this now because you'll be very alone if you don't and try to adapt quickly to what it can offer.
Being afraid of it is real, but if you're afraid of it and you don't know about it, then you really have fears. Besides AI, I have a lot of interest in education and in other things that I do that maybe are not in the fashion industry, not in the fashion world. But I think the luxury of living a long, healthy life is something I really focus on so that Now and tomorrow.
Now, right now, I think is the most exciting time in my life. Not my personal life, but in what's going on in the world, the possibilities. I think disruption is a mandate. Disruption in the fashion industry will make it better. Disruption in every part of our lives will make it better because what exists has reached the end of the road and we need to change things. So it's a very exciting time.
So I'd like to live a long life so I can experience all of this excitement and be a part of it.
You know, I'm going to refer back to Twyla again, because we both agreed that our failures were so important in our development, and the failures that involved humiliation even more so. And so many people want to be perfect and don't want to make a mistake and don't want to look human or whatever, but those mistakes...
while they're embarrassing and humiliating, if you take action immediately to course correct or to find another route or a solution or maybe just a U-turn and go somewhere else, that's really the key. And also...
really taking a look at when something horrible is happening in your life, whether it's a person, situation, and think, the universe is here, so I don't continue down this road, that I try something else, or I make an adjustment in myself, or I take a look at myself in the mirror and understand what's happening. Those are really important. They're more important than the good things.
The good things only mean one thing. Good, then not so good happens, right? You can't stay on a plateau of good forever. So every time something great happens here, I say, don't get excited because this is when I get nervous. When everything is too good... it's going to get bad or it's going to be not so good.
So you have to then figure out a way not to make it a nosedive, but to kind of just a little valley till you get to somewhere else you're supposed to be. So it's tricky to deal with these embarrassments and humiliations, but you can't succeed. You can't do anything without having them as part of your life experience.
Well, thank you very much. This was great. I think this is a fantastic service you're doing for people. It was a good idea. I read your bio. You have a good history yourself, and that's great that you're using it to help other people. That's really commendable. Thank you. Thank you, Norma.
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