Norman Ohler

You might understand something about your life.

You might not.

I mean, LSD doesn't necessarily turn you into a more knowledgeable person.

You could also focus that on your orthodox belief system.

But many people realize different things, have different ideas.

So it doesn't work as this conditioning drug.

But also the CIA...

then kind of took over the LSD experiments that the US military took over from the SS.

So now it's in CIA hands.

In 1947, Central Intelligence Agency is founded because America didn't have a Central Intelligence Agency before.

They had like the military agencies like OSS.

Now they have the CIA and the CIA makes it Dallas, the first director, he says.

the brain warfare is going on now between the Soviet Union and us.

This is Cold War.

We have to, you know, maybe they are using something against us.

We have to be really on our, you know, we have to be prepared, you know, for the brain warfare because communism is a propagandistic system.

So they were always like either really afraid or just pretending to be afraid the Soviet Union would, you know, develop the truth drug quicker than them.

So at the LSD level,

truth drug program which was labeled mk ultra the infamous mk ultra is a mind control program i mean it is and lsd played a big part in it it's a deeply illegal one certainly yeah i mean it was never approved by the congress or anything like that probably deeply unethical maybe one of the more un-american unethical things

done in in recent times it's certainly unethical it continues the nazi human experiments right that's what the cia did it's continuing one of the worst aspects of what the nazis were doing absolutely yeah defeated the nazis and carried the flag forward it's it's just dark and this is basically the reason why lsd at one point became illegal because it did not get the chance still wanted to put it on the market