Norman Ohler

and kind of interview them, get their knowledge for the nuclear program mostly, but also for biochemical weapons.

And one of the first persons they interrogated was Richard Kuhn.

And Richard Kuhn immediately collaborated because he didn't want to go to the Nuremberg trial.

He wanted to continue his career, actually.

He was an opportunist.

So I guess his Nazi convictions were not so strong after all, because he also liked the Americans.

So he told the Americans immediately about LSD.

And the next day, a very high general flew from the States to Frankfurt, went to Heidelberg, spoke to Kuhn again, went then, took off his uniform and went in civil clothing to Basel, because Switzerland is neutral, and received the first LSD from Stolzang.

So the American general had LSD.

This was in 45 in the summer.

And then the American military started to examine LSD.

Could LSD be the true drug?

Because if the Nazis think so, maybe it's true, you know, because the Nazis were, you know, cutting edge scientists as evil as they were.

Well, I read one report from a guy who was an inmate and he received it in coffee and he had a full-blown psychedelic trip and he had this SS guy who was like asking him questions and the guy had such a great trip.

Yeah.

I would always imagine you have a terrible trip in the concentration camp, but he was like seeing fractals and colors and he could see that there was something bigger than these Nazis and there was something bigger than the concentration camp.

And he only said it was so horrible when the trip ended and he kind of became sober again and was just an inmate again in the concentration camp.

Yeah, I didn't think about that.

They miserably failed because LSD is not the truth drug.

LSD maybe leads you closer to your own truth because when suddenly the default mode network receives less energy and other parts of the brain think more and the brain becomes a neuroplasticity of the brain is enhanced and is stimulated.