Norman Ohler

I said, well, it was made by your company.

He said, I know this, but it was, it's not...

This is very interesting, actually.

And I said, I'm going to gift you one of these trips now.

And he said, wow, you really would do this?

And I said, you can archive it.

And he's like, ha ha ha.

And then he actually took one.

And then the ice broke.

That's great.

And then he said, okay, I'm going to show you now the correspondence of Stoll, our CEO.

It's no problem.

And he just went to the next room and he looked for like 10 minutes.

And then he brought me these boxes.

And then I saw actually the correspondence between Stoll and Kuhn, between the Swiss CEO and the German Nazi scientist, what they were talking about.

And then I found a smoking gun, October 1943.

Kuhn acknowledges that he receives half a gram of ergotamine, which is the precursor drug to LSD.

And so it's highly likely that the Nazis used LSD together with mescaline in Dachau.

And when the Americans liberated the Dachau camp, they had a special unit called Alsos with them.

And Alsos' job was to find German scientists.