Norman Ohler

And he said to me, when I asked him that very same question, he said, LSD is the most sophisticated molecule.

He meant by that is that LSD...

docks onto more receptors than psilocybin.

Like psilocybin interacts with like five different types of receptors in the brain and LSD like with nine.

So that makes LSD more complex molecule.

So that's why it already works in very small quantities because it's like the key is like perfect for our brain.

Our brain really reacts strongly to LSD.

For psilocybin, you have to take milligrams, not micrograms, but milligrams.

So mushrooms is also described as the softer psychedelic experience because it only lasts for like five hours, while LSD lasts like eight hours.

And LSD can be more...

LSD is also a mushroom, but it's ergot, which is a mushroom, but it's turned into a diethylamide.

You extract the potent acid from ergot, which is lysergic acid, and you turn that into a diethylamide.

So it's a process drug in a way.

It's a potent process drug that works also for mass movements quite well.

That's why it was so popular in the 60s, because people could just make it.

While mushrooms, they kind of, they have to grow.

Like the hippie movement, they could never have, you know, sustained on mushrooms because so many mushrooms don't even grow, but...

A good LSD chemist can make LSD for the whole world, basically.

Well, it had them in the 90s.

I mean, it had the best clubs that I... I mean, it was just a dream.