Norman Ohler
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
And Mussolini, I mean, the Italians invented that modern type of fascism.
And Italy was the role model for Nazi Germany.
But by now, Nazi Germany, of course, has been much more...
powerful, but you know, Italy is the most important ally.
And now Mussolini is like quitting in the middle of the war.
I mean, what is going on here?
So Hitler becomes, and Morel writes about this quite a lot.
He's in a terrible mood.
He really, he doesn't want to go like
He might lose his, you know, temper, whatever.
He's not happy.
And that's actually, that's the day when he receives the Oikodal for the first time.
And because he says to Morel, I'm under such stress, I'm not going to go.
He threatens, like he calls off the whole thing, like the plane's already waiting in Obersalzburg.
Everything is ready.
And he says, I'm not meeting this guy.
And then Morel gives him Oikodal.
And you can see the time when he gets the Oikodal.
And that's when he has this effect for the first time.
He's like, I can do anything.