Norman Ohler
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
They were both on a, Harro was rowing and she was on a sailboat.
of a guy that Harro also knew.
So he was rowing and he saw his friend on the sailboat and he looked at Libertas, she looked at him and they were in love in 1934.
And the other guy, the friend of Haro, he left his sailboat because he realized I'm like the fifth wheel on the car, not really needed.
How do you say that in sailboat terms?
I don't know.
The third sail is not needed.
But what happened at night, Haro didn't sleep with Libertas.
For her, that was...
very unusual because everyone wanted to sleep with her but how like he wanted to keep his clothes on it was a very warm night and i researched this quite thoroughly like i know exactly the temperature and so also the bohemians when you read bohemians you really experience the life of these people what like what they experience but everything is nothing is invented uh which is very tricky to do uh
So what happens that night, like Libertas wants to take off his clothes and he doesn't want to take them off because why?
From the torture in April 1933, he has quite a lot of scars.
They even burned swastikas into his thighs, like not burned, sorry, with knives, the SS.
So he doesn't want to show that to her.
He just...
And he hadn't had a girlfriend for a while.
He can't open up emotionally because he's fighting the Nazis.
It's very secret.
No one knows about this, that he's long-term planning his life to fight the system that he hates so much because they killed his best friend in front of his eyes.
But at one point, Libertas does.