Norman Ohler

The Luftwaffe did this, and they, like, German soldiers went to Spain, like, in plaincloth, like, posing as vacationers, but then they, you know, were actually soldiers and supporting

And Franco's, you know, were part of Franco's victory later on.

And Harro had this information and he passed, he tried to pass this on to the BBC.

He failed by passing it on.

Well, he met a BBC journalist during the Olympic Games in Berlin.

and told him about this.

And the BBC guy was too afraid to make this public.

And he kind of buried that information.

So Haro is just a very interesting character.

And he was in love with Libertas and Libertas with him.

Harro came from like a bourgeois family, very educated.

His great-grand-uncle was von Tierpitz, who built up the marine, the navy for the Kaiser.

So he came from this like influential German family, but they were all patriots.

They were not Nazis.

They were Democrats, patriots.

And militarists, I guess you could say, or like, you know, very straight laced also in a way.

And Libertas, she came from a castle north of Berlin.

She was this like bohemian, like aristocratic bohemian type, very good looking, always playing music.

And they fell in love.

They met on the Wannsee on boats.