Norman Ohler

We have to disagree.

And then in April 1933, two months after Hitler took power, they had a meeting with the editorial staff and they discussed the new issue.

And then there was a knock on the door and it was the SS and they beat up everybody and they destroyed the typewriters and the printing press that they had in the office in Berlin.

And they took Haro and his best friend, who was half Jewish.

to one of these early concentration camps and they tortured both of them and the Jew was killed.

He didn't make it.

Henry Erlanger and Harro, at that moment, he realized who he's against, you know, that he has to, he decided to become, to fight this system.

And the way he fought the system was later during the 60s.

We also had a 60s kind of cultural and political changes in Germany.

And our 60s, they called it march through the institutions.

That is a way to infiltrate the system, like to become part of the system.

And then, you know, change the system from within.

So you don't leave the country, you stay, you go into the institutions, you march through the institutions.

So Harro decided to go into the Luftwaffe and he was working in the Air Force Luftwaffe Ministry, a huge building still intact today in Berlin, Wilhelmstrasse.

quite an interesting building that was like the power center of the Luftwaffe, like one of the most important structures in the whole Nazi regime.

And he was working there and he worked his way up and he received quite a lot of information.

For example, when Germany for the first time

became militarily active again.

This was in 1936 when the Germans supported the fascists in Spain in the Spanish Civil War.

This was a clandestine operation.