Norman Ohler

i'm totally fine with it and i know it's very hard for you and i really am mostly sad for you and mother and my brother that you have to go through this and i'm very sorry but i'm fine with it and i have a clean conscience i did what i could to stop this madness i'm like what who is this guy you know

And I Googled him and there were not so many hits on him, but I read a little bit and he actually had formed together with his wife Libertas, which means freedom.

Good name.

He had formed the largest resistance network against the Nazis that ever existed.

Over a hundred people in Berlin that were all connected and they were

they were like from all flights of life.

Like there were, some were artists, other were workers, some were leftists, other were patriots.

Uh, how always believed that people could come to an agreement.

Like it's possible to actually talk about things.

And he was a, he was a true Democrat.

Maybe you could say, or true, I don't know, libertarian or, you know, he was a,

he had to learn a hard lesson that with Nazis, you cannot argue because they are always right.

They're not, it doesn't work.

At least it didn't work during the Third Reich.

Like he could, he had published a newspaper during the Weimar Republic called Gegner, which means opponent.

And in the Gegner, opponents could all write, like who would be on the streets, opponents, they could all write in the opponent.

And so it was a,

You read all kinds of texts and opinions, and he thought when Hitler took over power in 1933 that he could continue to publish the opponent because the opponent, he thought, even in a Nazi-led Germany, this keeps the discourse.

You have to have a discourse.

We have to discuss.