Norman Ohler

And it did sometimes.

So that's why the Bohemians are a very interesting subject because sometimes it just doesn't work.

In a way it works that love really bonds them together.

But also, especially Libertas and Haro, they have a terrible marriage sometimes.

Like they really fight because Libertas is not so much

intellectually convinced.

She's more resistance fighter from the heart.

Like she feels that the Nazis are not good, but Hau is more like the analytical guy.

So they have a lot of friction also.

And it's a fascinating story.

They came quite far.

I mean, they made...

There was a point in time when Haro had militarily relevant information through his position at the Luftwaffe Ministry, and he passed that on to allies, to Western allies and to the Soviet Union.

So he went a step further than just being like a resistance guy.

Yeah, they can beat Germany.

But that was also discussed in the group.

It's very interesting to see.

Some say, we can't do this because the Soviet Union is also a totalitarian regime.

But then Haro says, yeah, but they are going to beat Hitler.

So the Bohemians is a very interesting topic.