Norman Ohler

And that's a little bit

I think it resembles a little bit what this group did.

Just living differently, not living, you know, that's why I said in the beginning, Nazis are bad dancers because they, I think they were good dancers at the parties, you know, and they were like, I think it's, dancing can be a form of resistance.

Right.

That is the aim of my next book.

Yeah, it's called Stone Sapiens.

I discussed this with, uh, already mentioned Anthony Beaver, uh, who is like the master in historical nonfiction books.

I said, is it also possible to write a world history, like about everything basically?

And he said, yes, it is possible.

It's not easy because you have to understand like a lot, you know, and obviously it will always be a selection.

It's clear, you know, um,

that's why i also think that the historical science is basically a fictional science i mean i have a forward the blitz forward basically tells that story don't take it with a grain of salt not only blitz but every historical book because we weren't there you know that's what johnny depp said when the when the when the guy said so you had like a mega pint of red wine he just said were you there you know the guy wasn't there so um

historical sciences is a fiction yeah but you know it's a certain type of fiction and it's based on facts so i'm not inventing anything in stone sapiens and i'm highly interested in the very early human history and there are not a lot of sources so the beginning of the book

is more speculative than, for example, the Vietnam War chapter.

In the Vietnam War chapter, I'm in Hanoi speaking to Viet Cong generals, asking them did they supply heroin to the GIs, which would diminish their fighting capability.

You can research that, and that's also a chapter.

By the way, the Vietnam War is not called the Vietnam War in Vietnam.

It's called the American War.

And also I was like sitting with these Viet Cong generals in Hanoi just like a few weeks ago for researching for Stone Sapiens.

And I said, so did the Viet Cong bring heroin?