Norman Swan

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What's That Rash? · Global cases falling. Is it the vaccines or something else? · 17 Feb 2021 podcast

But it's mixed in, there are asymptomatic cases in there as well.

So it's the definitions vary from country to country.

But nonetheless, you you would expect the vaccine to reduce the number of people coming forward for testing with symptomatic disease.

This probably would have happened anyway without vaccination.

And it's going to accelerate presumably with it.

Yeah, there's a lag obviously to the death rate um or the number of deaths.

Um and I think that what we still don't have a fix on is what the COVID pandemic is doing in low income countries.

And we just need to remember that within low income countries, this is not just a an ethical and humanitarian issue, this is a selfish issue for us as well.

That new

Variants can emerge from low-income countries if the pandemic is still running relatively unchecked in those countries.

And if that's the case, and you've got the fall is where they're doing most, you're seeing is more they're doing most testing.

We don't have full visibility in what's going on in low-income countries.

And if the pandemic continues and the effect of vaccines is not kicking in because they're not vaccinated.

then you've still got the virus circulating with all the mutants that are being thrown off and those can spread.

And if we want to control this pandemic and stop new variants emerging, we've got to immunize low income countries with a very high degree of probability.

It's not just for their sake, it's for our sakes too.

That's right.

And most of these mutations will be harmless mutations like the one we were the ones we were talking about all last year.

But now, you know, the risk is that the mutants that the the the virus is throwing off.

Remember, the virus does not have a brain, so it's not intentionally doing this.

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