Odette Yousef

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The NPR Politics Podcast · Minnesota shooting blurs political lines around guns · 29 Jan 2026 podcast

But there is no disagreement over this question of whether the fact that Preti was carrying a weapon was itself an indicator of criminal intent.

So the department appears to be holding right now primarily to the constitutional standard, which permits deadly force only when an officer believes that they are in imminent danger or threat or somebody else is facing imminent danger or threat.

There's something called the reasonableness standard.

So it's evaluated based on whether a reasonable officer would assess that to be the case.

But the department in 2023, under then Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas, issued internal guidelines about use of force standards.

And

It's an interesting document to read because it does appear to really prioritize considerations around the value of human life, the importance of considering a reasonable, safe alternative to using deadly force.

But this was an administrative standard that was enacted during President Joe Biden's term, and which seems to have kind of gone out the door when President Trump

took office again.

So, yeah, I mean, I spoke with a retired FBI agent who started at the FBI just a couple of months after the Department of Justice introduced its first ever department-wide use of force policy.

And the reason that they had created this was in response to

a deadly encounter that federal agents had had three years earlier, back in 1992 in Northern Idaho, in an event that has come to just be referred to as Ruby Ridge, because that's the name of the location where it took place.

It was with a white separatist family who,

Federal agents were trying to apprehend the patriarch of that family and ended up killing the man's wife and his 14-year-old son.

A U.S.

deputy marshal also was fatally shot.

And so it led to this new department-wide use of force policy, which said that it was going to go beyond

this constitutional standard and it also required that officers need to have had no safe alternative to deadly force in order for a deadly shooting to be justified and so that's a standard that has been in place at law enforcement agencies that fall under the department of justice

So not just the FBI, but also, for example, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the U.S.

Marshal Service.

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