Oli Gardner

It's not this templated overlay that looks like the ones you've seen on 15 other sites.

So that's a big competitive advantage, especially for people who take their brand seriously.

yeah again our value is different um and our targeting is getting really really smart and it will do it expands very quickly because it's a new product we move much more quickly than we do like say on the the primary landing page and and really i mean

Most services like that cost between like $250 and $5,000 a month.

We, you know, even if you're not using landing pages, we start at 99 bucks.

So it's very cheap for what you get and the value you get.

There are some cheaper ones and there's some WordPress plugins, but they're just not very good.

I am primarily a public speaker now.

I spend about half of my time on the road doing that, which I absolutely love now.

I was scared out of my mind to start that a couple years ago, but I got guilted into it.

I was terrified, but then I won an award for best presentation at 65 speakers.

My God.

Okay.

I'll do it.

I wasn't, you kind of, I'd be good at it.

I just didn't want to do it, but now I love it.

So that's about half my time.

And the rest of it, I kind of advise and work with the marketing team where I work on new content.

I'm working on a book right now.

at least the ideas behind it.