Oliver Chen

On the other hand, they're feeling anxious.

So we're watching both, and there's a bunch of cross currents, but don't bet against the US consumer.

It's been solid.

We're going to be using both.

What's still happening is mobile is in the new mall.

So we're seeing increased rates of mobile use, but a bit of everything from buy online pickup and store to curbside pickup to delivery is being used so much.

And then I like the good old fashioned way.

It's just thrilling to be in the stores this morning and across the country and earlier this week.

So it's all happening.

And certainly these new ways of payment and the future of payments is very different for younger customers too.

Yeah, what's happening is lots of change.

The creative matters are really creating desire, having new design.

And we're seeing a lot of newness at Gucci and others.

And Bottega has been doing great.

The themes for luxury continue to be quiet luxury in terms of what's happening with less focus on logos and a real emphasis on quality and materials.

So Bottega Veneta fits nicely in that trend.

As you know, Brunello Cucinelli, Laura Piana,

And I'm a personal lover of Gucci, so I want to see them win.

We're watching some creative change there at Tom Ford, too.

Yes, we are.