Oliver Darcy

Yeah, like, they're not.

Like, CNN's newsgathering.

Whether you think about CNN, it's a newsgathering operation.

They have correspondents around the world.

They get news.

They report it as they see fit.

And instead, Fox was dishonestly, knowingly pushing Trump's BS to people.

just in a way to make money.

And even still, it's covered as if it's a news organization.

I don't know why.

I mean, I think there's a lot of reasons.

I think part of it's self-censorship.

Part of it's just like laziness on behalf of news organizations that are covering Fox and others.

Part of it is that there's not a appetite, I think, for aggressive coverage in this sector for whatever reason.

Like, I think the news media to some extent has...

sort of kind of come to terms with how to cover Donald Trump, right?

Like they call out his lies, they say they're lies, et cetera, but there hasn't been a reckoning in how we deal with the media environment that allowed Trump to be birthed into existence really in politics.

And I don't think until actually there is that reckoning and until executives that are allowing these lies to take hold across the country, I just feel like Trump might go away, but like the problem is still there, right?

And it's actually getting worse and worse.

If you look at the media environment we were in in 2015, it was a lot healthier than it is today.