Omar Zenhom

I mean, I don't believe in, I mean, you can, you have a gut feeling, but that doesn't really tell you much until you have some data.

So yeah, so we try to collect as much data as possible.

And over the years, I mean, we,

We sold it for a one-time price, a lifetime membership.

We have had an annual price.

So we've gotten to this point because recently in February, we did a major update to Webinar Ninja's software.

It was an overhaul, basically.

And we moved away from... February 2016?

It was February 11, actually.

February 11, 2015.

Oh, 15.

Sorry, 16 this year.

Oh, 16, okay.

So just a few months ago.

Yeah, exactly.

So we moved away from Google Hangouts because we felt like we wanted to be able to have a little bit more control of our feed, our video feed, and have a little bit more of a dynamic experience.

I mean, Google Hangouts is a solution that some people use, but it has its drawbacks, and we just don't want to deal with those anymore anymore.

So, um, we moved to web RTC, which is the latest technology and webinar software.

So with that, there is a cost, you know, you're going to pay money to use that kind of software.

I mean, I have to, you know, I work with Telefonica, which is one of the biggest tele telecommunications companies and, and, you know, they're going to charge us per attendee.