Oprah Winfrey

It's contingent on the number of followers I have.

It's contingent on the sneakers I'm wearing.

It's contingent on all these other things.

She has.

I mean, I've learned so much in our 10 years of lunches and dinners and walks.

She's my mentor.

I'm not her mentor.

I will say if we're gonna talk in mattering terms, I think Ina really showed me how to matter to myself, which is a critical aspect of mattering.

And when you are a parent to three young children and trying to have a career, your needs are often not even on the to-do list.

And so I would go, we would meet for lunch and I would sit down and she would say, okay, so what are you doing for you?

How are you?

She didn't use the word mattering necessarily at the time, but she really...

You know, what she showed me was we have to be intentional about finding our joy and celebrating our joy.

She said to me a quote for some people like me, work is easy, play is hard.

And so I learned from Ina how to prioritize my play.

how to squeeze more joy into my day, even on those really busy days.

And, you know, for anybody out there like me who's struggling with how to prioritize your own needs, I now have this simple practice that I do where every morning when I'm brushing my teeth, I say to myself, what is the one need I need to fill today for myself so that I can show up and be my best self for the people that I care about?

So that's, it's about, you know, there's this great quote, self-care is other care.

And as parents.

Yes.