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And not to mention, not just running around, you know, with the pump in the back of the car, breastfeeding, doing all the things that are required of a world leader. Having other people, the naysayers, question whether you should even have the right to be a mother and also be a war leader.

And not to mention, not just running around, you know, with the pump in the back of the car, breastfeeding, doing all the things that are required of a world leader. Having other people, the naysayers, question whether you should even have the right to be a mother and also be a war leader.

And not to mention, not just running around, you know, with the pump in the back of the car, breastfeeding, doing all the things that are required of a world leader. Having other people, the naysayers, question whether you should even have the right to be a mother and also be a war leader.

I have so much to talk about with former Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. Stay with us. That's all coming up next.

I have so much to talk about with former Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. Stay with us. That's all coming up next.

I have so much to talk about with former Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. Stay with us. That's all coming up next.

Welcome back, listener. I am so grateful that you're here for this deeply personal conversation with Jacinda Ardern, who's looking back at her time as Prime Minister of New Zealand. You know, I have always admired the way she led her country with courage and kindness. And I'm honored to finally sit down with her.

Welcome back, listener. I am so grateful that you're here for this deeply personal conversation with Jacinda Ardern, who's looking back at her time as Prime Minister of New Zealand. You know, I have always admired the way she led her country with courage and kindness. And I'm honored to finally sit down with her.

Welcome back, listener. I am so grateful that you're here for this deeply personal conversation with Jacinda Ardern, who's looking back at her time as Prime Minister of New Zealand. You know, I have always admired the way she led her country with courage and kindness. And I'm honored to finally sit down with her.

She's talking about her new book, A Different Kind of Power, and a new documentary called Prime Minister. And then you made history in, I think it was 2018, when you brought Neve to the United Nations in New York. It was the first time in history a baby was brought to the floor of the UN General Assembly and the photos were seen all over the world.

She's talking about her new book, A Different Kind of Power, and a new documentary called Prime Minister. And then you made history in, I think it was 2018, when you brought Neve to the United Nations in New York. It was the first time in history a baby was brought to the floor of the UN General Assembly and the photos were seen all over the world.

She's talking about her new book, A Different Kind of Power, and a new documentary called Prime Minister. And then you made history in, I think it was 2018, when you brought Neve to the United Nations in New York. It was the first time in history a baby was brought to the floor of the UN General Assembly and the photos were seen all over the world.

And you came out of that experience with a powerful message for women. Yes. First of all, that that was a different kind of power to be able to bring your baby to the United Nations.

And you came out of that experience with a powerful message for women. Yes. First of all, that that was a different kind of power to be able to bring your baby to the United Nations.

And you came out of that experience with a powerful message for women. Yes. First of all, that that was a different kind of power to be able to bring your baby to the United Nations.

So when you came out of that, your message was both spoken and unspoken.

So when you came out of that, your message was both spoken and unspoken.

So when you came out of that, your message was both spoken and unspoken.

And the essence of that message was what?

And the essence of that message was what?